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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 22:03:04 GMT -5
looking to build Graham Hill's Lotus 42F that he drove in 1967. anyone already do a build on this car?
what I know is that the 42B (B for BRM) was originally built to run in 1966 with a longer wheelbase to accept the BRM engine. the engine wasn't available in time, so the STP team went back to the 38.
the 42F (F for Ford) was the modified 42B to accept the DOHC Ford engine. only Hill qualified the car and started, I believe, 31st.
the one good pic I've seen of it shows that the engine was farther back from the cockpit than the 38 and it appeared to have 2 roll bars(?). also had side tanks that the 38 didn't have.
anyone have any good pics on this car? I'm planning on using the IMC Lotus 38 kit and make mods as needed.
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Post by MikeB on Dec 10, 2012 22:18:14 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hale on Dec 11, 2012 1:39:32 GMT -5
So thats why the Bandai 1/16 kit has the optional add on side tanks!! It also doesnt have the same windscreen as the other 38's.. Hmmmm Chris
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 5:10:41 GMT -5
thanks Mike for posting those pics. the first one was the one I found, in b&w, that I noticed it appeared to have 2 roll bars. also your 'at speed' pic really shows the extended chassis and the longer space between the cockpit and the engine.
and yes, I would imagine that would explain the added side tanks on the Bandai kit. maybe they combined the 38 and the 42? wouldn't that make it a Lotus "80"? lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 5:16:44 GMT -5
I also just noticed that the "81" on the side of the car is placed differently in the pic of the car at speed than the one parked in the pits. both pics appear to be Indy. maybe a re-paint for some reason before the big race?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 10:52:12 GMT -5
From the pics it would appear Granetelli wanted his sponsorship larger.
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Post by oldphotos on Dec 11, 2012 16:09:06 GMT -5
Your right the Lotus 42 was built for the BRM H-16 engine. When it wasn't available the Lotus team , They built a tube frame for the back of the car for the Ford motor which extend the wb to 102inches vs the 96 inch wb on the Lotus 38. Graham Hill said the car handler a lot better that the Lotus 38, so on the Lotus 56 Chapman made the cars with a 102 inch WB. The Lotus 38 of Clark in 1967 Did have an extra tank on the left side. Hope this helps
Old Photos Walt
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 19:11:36 GMT -5
From the pics it would appear Granetelli wanted his sponsorship larger. really? that's hard to believe! lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 22:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 18:27:06 GMT -5
cool....thanks Lance. the last pic is great for the detail of the tube chassis extension. and the first pic is great too. you can even see the STP Day-Glo Red that's still on the bulkhead behind the cockpit. the middle pic is interesting.....#10 and #84? I wonder if those were the '66 models that didn't run?
now if only I had some pics of the engine with the cowls off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 12:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 14:04:04 GMT -5
I could look at those photos all day long. What a great era. I want a time machine real bad.
John
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 18:46:32 GMT -5
I could look at those photos all day long. What a great era. I want a time machine real bad. John absolutely!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 12:48:39 GMT -5
ANY OTHER PICTURES FROM THE 1967 NDY 500 WITH THESE... An other picture from the Graham Hill's Lotus(in B&W): Colin CHAPMAN: And the motor details: And to compare with the Clark's Lotus 38: I have more pictures from this race with the Clark#31 & Hill#80 in practice,and also race car(if you've an interest)... Greetings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 19:42:10 GMT -5
when it comes to pics of thie era, more is ALWAYS better! please, bring it ON!
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