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Post by schnauzer on Jun 6, 2013 21:48:59 GMT -5
Monogram released five kits of "modern indy", as below:
-Lola MAC Tools -Valvoline March -Lola Granatelli -Quaker State porsche -Raynor Lola
But monogram boxes don´t describe year, chassi model, driver from these kits. Which kits from AMT are avaliable to model these cars on 1/25 scale?
Regard´s
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Post by illeagle10 on Jul 8, 2013 18:18:02 GMT -5
AMT vs Monogram. As far as it goes the consensus goes among Indy modelers the AMT kits, while not perfect are far better than the Monogram kits. AMT kits are in 1/25 scale, while the Monogram kits are in 1/24. Most Indy car models are in 1/25 scale, so the Monograms are in an odd scale. With the AMT kits, there is a distinction between the March, Lola and Penske kits. While the Monograms are like a blend of the Lola and March.
The Monograms are representation of cars from 1988. MAC Tools 88 Lola/Buick - Johnny Rutherford Granatelli True Value Lola/Chevy - Roberto Guerrero Raynor Lola/Ford - Derick Daley Valvoline March/Chevy - Al Unser, Jr. Quaker State March/Porsche - Teo Fabi
As far as what AMT kits to supplement the Monogram kits, you'll need to buy Indycals Buick engine to do the MAC Tools Lola along with any AMT Lola. You'll want the AMT K-mart Lola for the Granatelli car, because that is a Lola with a Chevy engine. The AMT Amway or Provimi Veal for the Raynor car. For the Valvoline you' need an AMT 88 March with one of the Chevy engines from the Lola kit. Quaker State will probably be a curbside kit! Hope this helps, Jim
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 20:14:59 GMT -5
the Monograms are like a blend of the Lola and March. That's a very good description. The Monogram Lola and March look more like each other than they look like a real Lola or a real March. If you want an accurate build, avoid the Monograms.
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Post by schnauzer on Jul 8, 2013 21:11:41 GMT -5
AMT vs Monogram. As far as it goes the consensus goes among Indy modelers the AMT kits, while not perfect are far better than the Monogram kits. AMT kits are in 1/25 scale, while the Monogram kits are in 1/24. Most Indy car models are in 1/25 scale, so the Monograms are in an odd scale. With the AMT kits, there is a distinction between the March, Lola and Penske kits. While the Monograms are like a blend of the Lola and March. The Monograms are representation of cars from 1988. MAC Tools 88 Lola/Buick - Johnny Rutherford Granatelli True Value Lola/Chevy - Roberto Guerrero Raynor Lola/Ford - Derick Daley Valvoline March/Chevy - Al Unser, Jr. Quaker State March/Porsche - Teo Fabi As far as what AMT kits to supplement the Monogram kits, you'll need to buy Indycals Buick engine to do the MAC Tools Lola along with any AMT Lola. You'll want the AMT K-mart Lola for the Granatelli car, because that is a Lola with a Chevy engine. The AMT Amway or Provimi Veal for the Raynor car. For the Valvoline you' need an AMT 88 March with one of the Chevy engines from the Lola kit. Quaker State will probably be a curbside kit! Hope this helps, Jim Curdside for all Tks for reply!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 16:51:53 GMT -5
The Mac Tools car also has the decals for Jim Crawford's #15. The Raynor decals, with just a few changes, can also be used to make an '89. All the decals will fit the AMT cars with just a bit of fiddling. As for the Porsche, Judd (the Raynor cars were Judd's, not Fords) and Buick engines, with a little bit of resizing I was able to make upper engine parts and exhausts from the Monogram kits fit the AMT blocks with little to no problems. 100% accurate, no -- but to anybody except a nitpicker, ok. Truth is they have been on the shelf since 1989 and nobody has ever asked to see the engines!
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Post by illeagle10 on Jul 12, 2013 7:05:09 GMT -5
The Mac Tools car also has the decals for Jim Crawford's #15. The Raynor decals, with just a few changes, can also be used to make an '89. All the decals will fit the AMT cars with just a bit of fiddling. As for the Porsche, Judd (the Raynor cars were Judd's, not Fords) and Buick engines, with a little bit of resizing I was able to make upper engine parts and exhausts from the Monogram kits fit the AMT blocks with little to no problems. 100% accurate, no -- but to anybody except a nitpicker, ok. Truth is they have been on the shelf since 1989 and nobody has ever asked to see the engines! For us "nitpickers!" :DLOL! 1988 Raynor Lola had a Ford Cosworth, 1989 Raynor Lola had a Judd. You are correct Chris the main reason to have the Monogram kits are the decals an valve covers, that's why I have a few of each of them! However, if you are looking for accuracy, Michael of Indycals has put out a very nice Indy Buick V6 in 1/25 scale in resin for the AMT kits. So those Monogram decals will come in handy! Michael also has some decals for a couple of Lolas that ran Buicks in 89. There is some great discussion here Chris with all of the combinations that we can come up with. It was a great time for Indy cars! Jim
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 20:48:59 GMT -5
Where do you buy AMT "current" year model Indy cars? I'd love 2010 or newer. Do they even make them?
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Post by illeagle10 on May 26, 2015 7:13:03 GMT -5
Where do you buy AMT "current" year model Indy cars? I'd love 2010 or newer. Do they even make them? Scott, AMT has not produced any current Indy cars. Their last and latest car was the 1989 Newman/Haas Lola. The latest Indy car produced by a major manufacturer is the Revell Reynards from the late 90s. These model kits are generally used as donors for resin produced kits, such as Bill Jorgensen's resin bodies. Bill Jorgensen had done a resin 2005-11 Dallara, which are very hard to find. Rick Faeth currently has the master and hopefully we'll see it in the near future. As far as the 2012-14 Dallara DW-12, Classic Racing Resins had done that car, but is currently unavailable. The current version for this years Dallara with the Honda or Cheverolet package has not been kitted at this point. If you go the die-cast route, there are cars available in 1/24 and 1/18 scale, but most of them need some sort of conversion to make them accurate. Jim
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 21:21:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the detail! I don't want to go diecast. I used to do models as a kid with my dad and wanted to pass along the tradition. My brothers and I go to the 500 every year and thought it would be fun to build some and share. Oh well, will have to think of something else.
Thanks!
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Post by illeagle10 on May 27, 2015 15:11:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the detail! I don't want to go diecast. I used to do models as a kid with my dad and wanted to pass along the tradition. My brothers and I go to the 500 every year and thought it would be fun to build some and share. Oh well, will have to think of something else. Thanks! Scott if you go to the Indy 500 every year you may want to stop by the memorabilia show. It takes place inside the track and there you can meet and see many of the modelers from the Indy Car and Open Wheel board. There are usually a number of guys with tables, this year Lance, Michael from Indycals, Kevin from Silver City Models and Tom and Ed from American Racing Miniatures were all there and selling their wears! You never know Scott by next year there maybe a number of DW-12s and newer car kits for sale by any number of people. One last thing you may try is to keep your eye on ebay. Bill Jorgensen 2005 to 2011 Dallaras pop up from time to time, although be prepared to pay a hefty price. Jim
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